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actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-02 10:26 p.m.
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-02 10:46 p.m.
@Kezzera summons approved?
krabz
krabz 2025-03-02 10:58 p.m.
Bro really used the southern district logo :💀:
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-02 11:10 p.m.
dude
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-02 11:10 p.m.
i made it
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-02 11:10 p.m.
so
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-02 11:10 p.m.
ima use it
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-02 11:11 p.m.
Ill remove it . frigging loser
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-02 11:11 p.m.
hard work gone to WASTE
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-02 11:33 p.m.
@actxrz Hello
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-02 11:33 p.m.
I'm missing Exhibit J as mentioned in the affidavit
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-02 11:33 p.m.
Please provide this to us
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-02 11:33 p.m.
OKAY!
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-02 11:34 p.m.
wait
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-02 11:35 p.m.
i asked wemski. will submit tmr
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-02 11:35 p.m.
Uh
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-02 11:35 p.m.
I've noticed that Exhibit I is related
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-02 11:36 p.m.
Do you mean exhibit I when you made reference to exhibit J for the 3rd charge?
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-02 11:36 p.m.
@actxrz
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-02 11:36 p.m.
im sure thats what the affiant meant, yes
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-02 11:36 p.m.
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-02 11:36 p.m.
i will have him correct his mistake
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-02 11:37 p.m.
to avoid any further confusion
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-02 11:37 p.m.
Affidavit will be required to confirm this
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-02 11:37 p.m.
ofc
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-02 11:37 p.m.
Otherwise I will now hand probable cause decision now
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-02 11:39 p.m.
awesome
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-02 11:39 p.m.
I find probable cause as to the first offense, Gross Misconduct; to the second offense, Fraud in 1D; to the third offense, Concealing/destroying evidence
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-02 11:40 p.m.
@actxrz You are directed to file to this court a copy of your summons
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-02 11:40 p.m.
which will be reviewed and signed
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-02 11:40 p.m.
I will arrange for a magistrate to prepare pre-trial proceedings by tomorrow sometime
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-02 11:40 p.m.
can i keep my logo on it :D
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-02 11:40 p.m.
krabz js a hater man
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-02 11:41 p.m.
sorry we cannot - cool logo though
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-02 11:41 p.m.
:😔:
actxrzactxrz
@Kezzera summons approved?
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-02 11:41 p.m.
ok here it is
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-02 11:41 p.m.
i already fixed the logos
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-02 11:41 p.m.
Need the pdf sent
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-02 11:41 p.m.
k
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-02 11:42 p.m.
can i do tmr i need to work on my paper
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-02 11:42 p.m.
that's fine
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-02 11:42 p.m.
We'll reconvene tomorrow then(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-03 06:42 p.m.
@actxrz you able to submit?
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-03 06:43 p.m.
also im noting the recent changes in the doj, you might benefit from informing the new ag about this as well
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-03 08:19 p.m.
yes i will i havent been on
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-03 08:19 p.m.
no worries just checking
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-03 09:55 p.m.
@Kezzera
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-03 09:55 p.m.
the affiant said he fixed the exhibit J thing and modified some other stuff
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-03 09:56 p.m.
pls lmk if all is good and i will send summons(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-04 12:13 a.m.
PC unchanged and for all 3 counts(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-04 12:13 a.m.
@actxrz
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-04 12:13 a.m.
Please provide summons
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-04 09:55 a.m.
@Kezzera
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-04 12:09 p.m.
Signed
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-04 12:36 p.m.
Posted in first class mail
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clerkFlow Bot2025-03-04 07:33 p.m.
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Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-03-04 09:52 p.m.
Add my attorney @andysofun
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-04 10:12 p.m.
submitted @Kezzera @actxrz
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-04 10:13 p.m.
andy can u update urself
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-04 10:13 p.m.
to avoid confusion
actxrzactxrz
andy can u update urself
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-04 10:14 p.m.
Still didn't remove my role
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-04 10:14 p.m.
don't know why
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-04 10:14 p.m.
o maybe ur still in doj group
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-04 10:15 p.m.
Looks like I am
andysofunandysofun used
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RoVer
RoVer Bot2025-03-04 10:15 p.m.
:white_check_mark: Update complete! Please enjoy your stay.
Nickname
andysofun
Removed roles
@Department of Justice
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-04 10:15 p.m.
there we go
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-04 10:19 p.m.
I intend to file a motion to dismiss counts one and three of the information tomorrow
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-05 01:26 a.m.
Magistrate @AdamC_2001 is appointed to prepare pre-trial proceedings
andysofunandysofun
I intend to file a motion to dismiss counts one and three of the information tomorrow
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-05 01:27 a.m.
acknowledged
andysofunandysofun
I intend to file a motion to dismiss counts one and three of the information tomorrow
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-05 10:27 p.m.
Thursday*
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andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-06 09:31 p.m.
@AdamC_2001 @actxrz submitted
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-03-06 10:12 p.m.
@andysofun @actxrz Both parties ready for discovery?
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001 used
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clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-03-06 10:13 p.m.
Discovery Opened
Discovery has been opened for 240 hours.

During discovery, both parties can admit evidence & witnesses, titling them alphabetically (separate from the other party's exhibits.

Discovery will end 3 months ago. Alternatively, if both parties agree to end discovery early, discovery may end early.
andysofunandysofun
@AdamC_2001 @actxrz submitted
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-07 02:19 a.m.
response will be due by the standard deadline
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-07 08:47 a.m.
got it
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-07 08:47 a.m.
will submit a response by the end of today
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-07 03:48 p.m.
@AdamC_2001 @actxrz submitted
andysofunandysofun
@AdamC_2001 @actxrz submitted
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-03-07 04:25 p.m.
Motion for Jury Trial is denied
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-07 05:23 p.m.
jury trial on roblox
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-07 05:23 p.m.
:😭:
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
Motion for Jury Trial is denied
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-07 06:51 p.m.
I respectfully object to the court's decision to deny the defendant a jury trial. The offense that he is charged with is not petty and carries a possible fine of $3.6 million, a substantial punishment. Of course, "Where a fine is so insubstantial that the underlying offense is considered 'petty,' the Sixth Amendment right of jury trial is not triggered" Southern Union Co. v. United States, 567 U.S. 343 (2012). But a $3.6 million fine is not insubstantial. If you'd compare it to the maximum amount of punitive damages allowed in a wrongful death lawsuit, $1 million, a $3.6 million fine is 260% higher. It'd take a substantial amount of time to make $3.6 million, making it a serious punishment. The seriousness of a $3.6 million fine is even higher when a defendant is an individual rather than an organization or business, as "Where the defendant is an individual, a large fine may 'engender ‘a significant infringement of personal freedom.’" Id. For these reasons, I ask the court to grant the defendant the jury trial he is entitled to under the 6th Amendment.
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-07 06:52 p.m.
cc @actxrz
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-07 08:07 p.m.
will respond ltr
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-07 08:07 p.m.
when home
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-07 08:08 p.m.
@AdamC_2001 im at the mosque rn is that okay? do i have the courts permission to be away from my computer
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-07 08:11 p.m.
yes, but you still have deadlines to meet
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-03-07 09:30 p.m.
Both parties may begin to disclose their discovery.
KezzeraKezzera
yes, but you still have deadlines to meet
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-08 11:07 a.m.
ik lol
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-08 03:19 p.m.
@Kezzera@AdamC_2001 i need a 24 hr extension to respond to the mtd. motion was submitted yesterday, friday the 7th, and i had school
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-08 03:19 p.m.
my schedule is a little scuffed cuz of ramadan n having to go to the mosque everyday an hour after i come home from school
actxrzactxrz
@Kezzera@AdamC_2001 i need a 24 hr extension to respond to the mtd. motion was submitted yesterday, friday the 7th, and i had school
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-08 03:23 p.m.
You were just playing mayflower a second ago
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-08 03:23 p.m.
And you can also ask another DOJ employee to make a response
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-08 03:24 p.m.
i didnt say i havent started
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-08 03:25 p.m.
i would like a little more time to review it before submitting
actxrzactxrz
@Kezzera@AdamC_2001 i need a 24 hr extension to respond to the mtd. motion was submitted yesterday, friday the 7th, and i had school
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-08 04:27 p.m.
@Kezzera @AdamC_2001 hello i have to leave soon i wont be home till prolly 11 :/
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-03-08 04:27 p.m.
Ok
andysofunandysofun
@AdamC_2001 @actxrz submitted
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-09 02:43 p.m.
The State concedes with the defendant's motion to dismiss counts one and three of the Information.
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andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-09 02:44 p.m.
thank you
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-09 02:45 p.m.
@AdamC_2001
andysofunandysofun
I respectfully object to the court's decision to deny the defendant a jury trial. The offense that he is charged with is not petty and carries a possible fine of $3.6 million, a su...
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-09 02:45 p.m.
and we also have this objection here
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-09 04:05 p.m.
@Kezzera@AdamC_2001@andysofun i have submit my 3-day notice for resignation to the dept of justice(edited)
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-03-09 04:50 p.m.
Thank you for your service actxzr
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-03-09 04:50 p.m.
May allah be on your wishlist
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-03-09 05:03 p.m.
Okayu
CrusoeCrusoe
Thank you for your service actxzr
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-09 06:46 p.m.
Thank u senator crusoe :🙏:
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-09 06:46 p.m.
May allah grant u great wealth and prosperity :📿:
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-03-09 06:46 p.m.
he already has
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-03-09 06:46 p.m.
mashallah
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-09 06:46 p.m.
in this life and the hereafter
actxrzactxrz
@Kezzera@AdamC_2001@andysofun i have submit my 3-day notice for resignation to the dept of justice(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-09 06:59 p.m.
We will request that substitutions be filed as soon as possible
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-09 06:59 p.m.
Please have this within 3 days from now
actxrzactxrz
The State concedes with the defendant's motion to dismiss counts one and three of the Information.
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-09 06:59 p.m.
@AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-03-09 07:00 p.m.
I saw I'm currently in the middle of some other work
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-09 07:08 p.m.
copied in for your benefit
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
I saw I'm currently in the middle of some other work
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-09 07:13 p.m.
unacceptable
KezzeraKezzera
We will request that substitutions be filed as soon as possible
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-09 07:13 p.m.
they already logged my resignation so
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-09 07:13 p.m.
there’s counsel here
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-09 07:14 p.m.
@urinal cake @dero
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-09 07:17 p.m.
We still need to officially terminate your appearance
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-09 07:18 p.m.
RJA 12e4, which will trigger 12f2 and you're free from then or 12f1 entirely(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-09 07:19 p.m.
(i get it can be a bit annoying)
andysofunandysofun
I respectfully object to the court's decision to deny the defendant a jury trial. The offense that he is charged with is not petty and carries a possible fine of $3.6 million, a su...
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-10 03:39 p.m.
hi could the court rule on this as the prosecution hasn't submitted a response in 48 hours @Kezzera @AdamC_2001
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-10 03:39 p.m.
thank u
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-10 04:43 p.m.
i believe there's an additional 1 day granted on extraordinary grounds?
KezzeraKezzera
i believe there's an additional 1 day granted on extraordinary grounds?
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-10 04:45 p.m.
I believe that's just for the mtd
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-10 04:46 p.m.
oh was it not for both
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-10 04:46 p.m.
@AdamC_2001 ?
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-03-10 04:49 p.m.
I was told by ace for both I believe could be wrong
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-03-10 04:49 p.m.
but sinc ehe resigned
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-03-10 04:49 p.m.
not sure anymore
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-10 05:30 p.m.
right...
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-10 05:30 p.m.
well mr. actxrz has still not been properly taken off this case, as he is currently of record unless someone wishes to clarify
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-10 05:31 p.m.
that is my understanding
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-10 05:31 p.m.
i've added the other counsellors here so they can send messages(edited)
actxrz
actxrz 2025-03-10 08:11 p.m.
verbal motion to withdraw as counsel

i resigned. i am not doj anymore. @dero and @urinal cake are counsel on this case
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-11 01:05 p.m.
@actxrz I will withdraw you accordingly
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-11 01:10 p.m.
Minute Order

Actxrz is withdrawn under Mayfl. R. Lim 12(f)(1). No named of record until response.

Deadline for Jury Trial Demand Opposition passed. Considerations will be made on this remaining motion.

The Court is open to consider any extensions to pretrial in accordance with the rules.

Date: March 11, 2025
Chief Judge AlbertWellesley
(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-11 01:17 p.m.
@AdamC_2001 on your behalf
Copy @dero @urinal cake
dero
dero 2025-03-11 01:30 p.m.
@Kezzera Sorry for my lackluster behavior your honor. I was going to make my presence here known but I forgot. I will appear to take over as recorded counsel for the government later
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-11 04:30 p.m.
That's fine thank you for checking in @dero
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-11 04:30 p.m.
Reminder:
State isn't going ahead with counts 1 and 3
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-11 04:30 p.m.
Jury Trial issue outstanding
dero
dero 2025-03-11 04:53 p.m.
Got it.
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-11 05:10 p.m.
Refer to the recent minute order for the jury trial issue
dero
dero 2025-03-12 07:09 p.m.
@Kezzera Would you like the reply on paper or just here
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 07:57 p.m.
Paper
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 07:59 p.m.
What for? @dero
KezzeraKezzera
What for? @dero
dero
dero 2025-03-12 08:01 p.m.
just the constitutions language
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:02 p.m.
I'm a bit lost
KezzeraKezzera
I'm a bit lost
dero
dero 2025-03-12 08:02 p.m.
ph
dero
dero 2025-03-12 08:02 p.m.
OH
dero
dero 2025-03-12 08:02 p.m.
i meant for the jury trial
dero
dero 2025-03-12 08:02 p.m.
thing
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:02 p.m.
Ohh
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:02 p.m.
Well it's awkward since the state ran out of time on it
dero
dero 2025-03-12 08:02 p.m.
did the previous attorney not contest that?
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:03 p.m.
He didn't submit - it seemed that he was on his way out
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:03 p.m.
But that's an assumption
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:03 p.m.
He confirmed resignation a bit after the deadline
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:03 p.m.
Which was confirmed for two days
dero
dero 2025-03-12 08:03 p.m.
Is it possible the state gets just 2 hours thats all I need
dero
dero 2025-03-12 08:03 p.m.
His resignation was a bit abrupt for us
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:04 p.m.
That deadline however may be unclear so I've decided for now to confirm it at the two days - I'm still uneased w that(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:04 p.m.
I mean if defendants are happy with that
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:04 p.m.
or if I can get some idea as to what was going on at the DOJ
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:05 p.m.
I think more than 2 hours since that's a bit too short anyway
dero
dero 2025-03-12 08:05 p.m.
Yeah so the previous attorney actxrz had a bit of a falling out with the sitting Attorney General and he also said that the DOJ was getting boring so the next words out of his mouth were that he resigns from DOJ
dero
dero 2025-03-12 08:05 p.m.
did not give us a heads up at all
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:05 p.m.
Okay so when has he confirmed this?
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:05 p.m.
To the DOJ
dero
dero 2025-03-12 08:06 p.m.
As in what
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:06 p.m.
Resignation
dero
dero 2025-03-12 08:06 p.m.
Oh here 1 second
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:06 p.m.
Thanks - do not send any private or confidential correspondence here
dero
dero 2025-03-12 08:06 p.m.
dero
dero 2025-03-12 08:06 p.m.
@Kezzera This is it
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:07 p.m.
and the date was..?
dero
dero 2025-03-12 08:07 p.m.
March 9
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:07 p.m.
Right
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:07 p.m.
@andysofun I'm bringing this to your immediate attention
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:08 p.m.
I did notice the DOJ is undergoing major reforms
dero
dero 2025-03-12 08:08 p.m.
I know we had a couple days to get it together but I also did not expect that he would just leave without answering something in the middle of a submission timeframe
KezzeraKezzera
I did notice the DOJ is undergoing major reforms
dero
dero 2025-03-12 08:08 p.m.
yes we recently had a large amount of discharges due to inactivity
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:09 p.m.
You still have discovery deadlines but these can be extended
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:09 p.m.
as for the JT motion
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-12 08:09 p.m.
hmmm
dero
dero 2025-03-12 08:09 p.m.
He didn't submit discovery either? :😭:
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:09 p.m.
I'm okay with an extension of 24 to 48 hours
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:09 p.m.
No
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:09 p.m.
He's done nothing but drop counts 1 and 3
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:10 p.m.
in response to andy's motion
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:10 p.m.
to drop those two
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-12 08:10 p.m.
yeah now it's just the fraud charge
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:11 p.m.
I don't think the state here is showing any neglect, supported by the fact that there's some unprecedented changes that occurred, it's hard to see how dero should be barred(edited)
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andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-12 08:11 p.m.
I think this is the discovery timeline
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:11 p.m.
Yes
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:11 p.m.
(thanks to acer for the bot)
KezzeraKezzera
Ohh
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-12 08:12 p.m.
would this mean that a jury trial is automatically granted
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-12 08:12 p.m.
or will the court still determine whether it's warranted in this case
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:12 p.m.
Well no it has to still be reviewed
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:12 p.m.
But I can see the state intended to respond
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:13 p.m.
I don't think an additional day to respond is an issue
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:13 p.m.
In light of the circumstances
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:13 p.m.
It'd be extraordinary
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-12 08:13 p.m.
Well your honor I think the DOJ totally dropped the ball on this case
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:13 p.m.
And I'd rarely allow it
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-12 08:13 p.m.
the previous prosecutor already was inactive in other cases and DOJ leadership neglected to do anything
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:14 p.m.
I wasn't aware of that
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:14 p.m.
oh that
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:14 p.m.
So I've heard
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-12 08:15 p.m.
Your honor I believe it'd be in the interests of justice that the jury trial matter is ruled on as soon as possible before trial
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-12 08:15 p.m.
and that means without a state response as they've neglected to submit one
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:17 p.m.
I'm trying to think of the best way to proceed
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:17 p.m.
to avoid any prejudice against the defendant as well
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:17 p.m.
Would there be any concern for prejudice that I'm not already aware of
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:17 p.m.
Or anything to show that there really won't be any prejudice if I granted one more day
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:18 p.m.
@andysofun @dero
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:19 p.m.
If I were to consider a formal extension we will need to resolve this in a hearing--unless state is happy to proceed as is or not deal with it altogether(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:20 p.m.
None of this should bar parties from submitting discovery stuff(edited)
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-12 08:20 p.m.
Right now I'm just waiting for the prosecution to submit discovery so we can submit our own
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-12 08:20 p.m.
So I can see their evidence and if I want to use any of it
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:21 p.m.
and the outstanding JT
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-12 08:21 p.m.
The state failed to respond in time according to the rules so I don't think they're entitled to make a response
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-12 08:22 p.m.
Preferably the jury trial issue is ruled on as soon as possible to give time to the parties to plan for the trial and get this case finished quickly because planning for a jury trial is different than a bench trial
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:22 p.m.
@dero Your options are that you may be able to formally request an extension and this will very much likely go to a hearing -- the JT issue would be pushed until we have to respond or you may wish to move on from this
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:22 p.m.
Yes
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:22 p.m.
A jury trial has not been done
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:22 p.m.
So we would need ample time
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-12 08:23 p.m.
Yeah we'd need to draft instructions and stuff
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-12 08:23 p.m.
But I'd be willing to cooperate with the state to help ensure a smooth jury trial
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:23 p.m.
(me when the material has been stashed far away)
dero
dero 2025-03-12 08:23 p.m.
Well the government does definitely oppose a jury trial because we find it to be a massive waste of time and honestly I do not have much hope that the people of Mayflower will remain... unbiased.
andysofunandysofun
But I'd be willing to cooperate with the state to help ensure a smooth jury trial
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:23 p.m.
Cooperation will be required so many thanks for reassurance counsellor
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-12 08:23 p.m.
Also if the prosecution could just make a quick verbal response to the jury trial matter then I'd be fine with that too
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:24 p.m.
Fine, sure
andysofunandysofun
Also if the prosecution could just make a quick verbal response to the jury trial matter then I'd be fine with that too
dero
dero 2025-03-12 08:24 p.m.
Well I mean
dero
dero 2025-03-12 08:24 p.m.
im already writing it it will just be a minute
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-12 08:24 p.m.
I'm fine with that
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:24 p.m.
I'll consider it then
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:24 p.m.
After that, parties please proceed with the discovery
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:25 p.m.
I am helping magistrate Sherman with his workload
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:26 p.m.
Wait
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:26 p.m.
How has there been no arraignment yet
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:26 p.m.
@andysofun @dero
dero
dero 2025-03-12 08:26 p.m.
I can't really answer that. I have no idea
dero
dero 2025-03-12 08:27 p.m.
but we definitely need to get that done thats for sure
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:27 p.m.
What a colossal mess
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:27 p.m.
Right
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:28 p.m.
I'm scheduling an arraignment then
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:28 p.m.
and it is only for count 2 - the complaint will need to be amended(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:29 p.m.
I would like to know the availability of the defendant @andysofun
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:29 p.m.
A waiver is also available should he choose to do that
KezzeraKezzera
I would like to know the availability of the defendant @andysofun
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-12 08:29 p.m.
I just asked him
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:29 p.m.
Okay
KezzeraKezzera
A waiver is also available should he choose to do that
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-12 08:29 p.m.
And I'll ask him about that too
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:30 p.m.
Talk him through it and send apologies on my behalf for noticing this just now(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-12 08:33 p.m.
List:
- arraignment or its waiver (awkward proc. but c2 only)
- motion on JT only; remote reps
- discovery as usual
dero
dero 2025-03-12 08:41 p.m.
Not much of a memorandum of law. I just didnt know what to call it
dero
dero 2025-03-12 08:51 p.m.
@Kezzera @andysofun
dero
dero 2025-03-12 08:51 p.m.
sorry meant to ping u guys
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-13 10:07 a.m.
Thanks Derogatoryy
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-13 10:54 a.m.
@dero @andysofun Your availabilites are required - check threads
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-13 11:15 a.m.
I will also require that the complaint be amended, the latest date to submit that is the day we hold a preliminary hearing and that declare that we proceed to trial (if it's not going ahead then don't bother obviously). No firm deadline set for that yet so dw for now(edited)
KezzeraKezzera
I will also require that the complaint be amended, the latest date to submit that is the day we hold a preliminary hearing and that declare that we proceed to trial (if it's not go...(edited)
dero
dero 2025-03-13 10:51 p.m.
understood your honor
dero
dero 2025-03-13 11:13 p.m.
Here is the government's amended information, Your Honor. I am working on doing that discovery right now as well.
dero
dero 2025-03-13 11:13 p.m.
@Kezzera @andysofun
dero
dero 2025-03-13 11:52 p.m.
Here is the government's discovery submission as well, Your Honor.
dero
dero 2025-03-14 12:03 a.m.
(and I've filled out the schedule thing)
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-14 11:21 a.m.
For the schedule thing the only time I’m available on it is Sunday after 6:30 PM EST
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-14 11:21 a.m.
I can’t do it during the week because of school and I have a school competition this weekend
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 04:42 p.m.
Please put it in the sheet instead of telling us next time(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 04:42 p.m.
I'll note it however(edited)
KezzeraKezzera
Please put it in the sheet instead of telling us next time(edited)
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-14 05:30 p.m.
Yep I did but the sheet only goes to 6 PM EST
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-14 05:30 p.m.
so I just wanted to be clear about it
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 05:45 p.m.
Oh that's odd wasn't aware
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 05:46 p.m.
Sorry
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 05:49 p.m.
It seems that all there is a day where all 4 of us are unavailable(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 05:54 p.m.
I will prioritise a slot where the defendant and government are available
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 05:54 p.m.
And give you enough time to prepare
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 05:55 p.m.
Unless you're happy for him to appear tomorrow or something @andysofun
KezzeraKezzera
Unless you're happy for him to appear tomorrow or something @andysofun
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-14 06:13 p.m.
Probably can’t do that
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 06:41 p.m.
It is arraignment but I will try to make this work where everyone can be present
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 06:42 p.m.
Defendant has not indicated his availability on your selected times and date(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 06:42 p.m.
So you will need to work out with him a suitable time and/or arrangement
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 06:44 p.m.
He's reminded that he can change his plea at any time(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 06:47 p.m.
Because of the slight mistake with the proceedings the arraignment would likely be held on the deadline for discovery(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 06:48 p.m.
And I am not keen on that
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 06:48 p.m.
I'd like to ask if we're happy to consider an extension
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 06:49 p.m.
Otherwise I might consider resetting the case
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 06:49 p.m.
@andysofun @dero
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 06:50 p.m.
This may have implications for the evidence, including preservation - please inform me why or why not one or any of those proposals are or are not a good idea
KezzeraKezzera
This may have implications for the evidence, including preservation - please inform me why or why not one or any of those proposals are or are not a good idea
dero
dero 2025-03-14 06:50 p.m.
Well i feel like we could solve it by doing the arraignment over discord
dero
dero 2025-03-14 06:51 p.m.
but I am not necessarily saying its a bad idea
dero
dero 2025-03-14 06:51 p.m.
this case is messed up
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 06:53 p.m.
If the defendant will appear then yes that's fine
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 06:53 p.m.
Thing is Andy is available Sunday only
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 06:54 p.m.
And that's your deadline
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 06:54 p.m.
I'm inclined to reset the clock if we can't work anything out (we would go back to the moment arraignment is finished and start discovery fresh)(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 06:57 p.m.
I'm not the one to force people to be here but I get less tolerant over delays
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 06:58 p.m.
Actually
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 06:59 p.m.
@Crusoe @andysofun @dero Would you all be available for arraignment by today or tomorrow if it was just held over Discord
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-03-14 07:03 p.m.
today yes, tommorrow maybe
KezzeraKezzera
@Crusoe @andysofun @dero Would you all be available for arraignment by today or tomorrow if it was just held over Discord
dero
dero 2025-03-14 07:05 p.m.
Yes
dero
dero 2025-03-14 07:05 p.m.
I can appear for that
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 08:10 p.m.
@andysofun
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 08:13 p.m.
I'm not going to shift things around every time anymore
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 08:13 p.m.
Please let me know ASAP today if the Discord arrangement is fine
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 08:13 p.m.
Your client is available today to take part in the arraignment by remote means(edited)
KezzeraKezzera
Your client is available today to take part in the arraignment by remote means(edited)
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-14 09:03 p.m.
Yeah that’s fine
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-14 09:03 p.m.
I can do it today
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 09:14 p.m.
Okay
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 09:16 p.m.
@dero @Crusoe @andysofun Arraignment is scheduled from March 14, 2025 at 10:30 p.m. . Everyone should be available from that hour
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 09:16 p.m.
Held by remote means
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 10:34 p.m.
@dero @andysofun @Crusoe Are you all here
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-14 10:34 p.m.
hi
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 10:36 p.m.
hi
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 10:36 p.m.
we'll wait on the others
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 10:40 p.m.
@dero @Crusoe
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 10:47 p.m.
hello?
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 11:00 p.m.
Right
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 11:01 p.m.
I will post the messages here anyway
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 11:01 p.m.
I just want a response
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 11:01 p.m.
@Crusoe Please indicate your presence
dero
dero 2025-03-14 11:04 p.m.
HELLO
dero
dero 2025-03-14 11:04 p.m.
I am here
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 11:07 p.m.
HELLO
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 11:07 p.m.
we need da defendant
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 11:09 p.m.
@Crusoe
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-14 11:18 p.m.
I'm going to sleep now @Kezzera
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 11:21 p.m.
Fantastic
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 11:23 p.m.
@Crusoe I want a response within 24 hour from the time I ask you for your plea. It is essential that you respond.
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 11:23 p.m.
We will just forget about the sync attendance since this is clearly not working out(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 11:23 p.m.
@andysofun @dero @Crusoe
We're convened to hold arraignment in the matter of State versus DanieICrusoe, CR-0071-25.
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 11:24 p.m.
I will read you your rights before I continue Mr. Crusoe:
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 11:24 p.m.
You have the right to remain silent. You do not have to speak or provide any information that could incriminate you.

You have the right to an attorney present during any questioning or legal proceedings. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed for you at no cost.

You have the right to a fair and public trial where evidence will be presented, and witnesses can be called to testify on your behalf.

You have the right to confront witnesses against you and test their evidence. You can question them in court.
KezzeraKezzera
You have the right to remain silent. You do not have to speak or provide any information that could incriminate you. You have the right to an attorney present during any que...
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 11:25 p.m.
QUESTION 1: Do you understand the rights I have read to you? Say yes/no before you respond to QUESTION 2. @Crusoe
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 11:25 p.m.
I will read the amended (and current) criminal complaint the State has filed. The state has charged you with the following offenses:
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 11:25 p.m.
Count 1 FRAUD IN THE FIRST DEGREE, which is a Felony and is cited as 1 M.S.C. § 3106.

The statement is as follows:

On or about the 31st day of January, 2025, in or around the State of Mayflower, the defendant engaged in a systematic court of conduct with the intent to defraud MK30931 by soliciting and obtaining in-game funds totaling $1,800,000. Through multiple deceptive representations—including the use of misleading photographic evidence and assurances of certification—the defendant falsely promised the provision of a Law Enforcement Training Institute Certification. By inducing the victim to transfer the funds under these fraudulent pretenses, the defendant unlawfully obtained property.
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 11:25 p.m.
Signed March 12, 2025
By Derogatoryyy, Chief State Attorney
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 11:26 p.m.
The original complaint contains Counts 1 and 3, which were dropped. You do not have to answer to Counts 1 and 3.
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 11:26 p.m.
QUESTION 2: How do you plead as to Count 1, Fraud in the First Degree? @Crusoe
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 11:28 p.m.
@Crusoe @andysofun @dero Arraignment is due in 24 hours: March 15, 2025 at 11:27 p.m.
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 11:28 p.m.
@dero Your discovery has been filed and entered in the Court's record. We will not proceed further with this process until the Arraignment has been sorted.
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 11:33 p.m.
Also, I will no longer accommodate anymore requests or arrangements for asynchronous hearings. They have not worked in these types of proceedings and promote unnecessary delay. It is only available if you have a legitimate emergency that prevents you from making an appearance in-game or being present to talk on this case channel. I will enter an order reflecting this.(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 11:35 p.m.
Going forward, please do not expect anymore of this async stuff. I've had enough. I have been generous to try and arrange this so everyone can just be in attendance and we've pulled through very late
KezzeraKezzera
@dero Your discovery has been filed and entered in the Court's record. We will not proceed further with this process until the Arraignment has been sorted.
dero
dero 2025-03-14 11:36 p.m.
Speaking of that, I made an error with filing my discovery and you couldnt click the hyper links. I have fixed it in the attached document
KezzeraKezzera
Also, I will no longer accommodate anymore requests or arrangements for asynchronous hearings. They have not worked in these types of proceedings and promote unnecessary delay....(edited)
dero
dero 2025-03-14 11:36 p.m.
Understood
derodero
Speaking of that, I made an error with filing my discovery and you couldnt click the hyper links. I have fixed it in the attached document
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 11:38 p.m.
Did you post this in the awesomefilingcenter channel
KezzeraKezzera
Did you post this in the awesomefilingcenter channel
dero
dero 2025-03-14 11:56 p.m.
I will do that now
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-14 11:57 p.m.
Thanks
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-03-15 04:46 a.m.
Here
✅1
KezzeraKezzera
QUESTION 1: Do you understand the rights I have read to you? Say yes/no before you respond to QUESTION 2. @Crusoe
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-03-15 04:46 a.m.
Yes
KezzeraKezzera
QUESTION 2: How do you plead as to Count 1, Fraud in the First Degree? @Crusoe
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-03-15 04:46 a.m.
Not Guilty
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-15 10:02 a.m.
Thank you Mr. Crusoe
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-15 10:03 a.m.
Your pleading of not guilty has been acknowledged. We will return to the original state of the pre-trial process
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-15 10:03 a.m.
@AdamC_2001 cc
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-15 10:03 a.m.
I will enter orders and entries reflecting this(edited)
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-15 07:38 p.m.
I’ll have defense discovery shortly
❤️1
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-16 09:00 a.m.
MINUTE ENTRY:

Arraignment held on March 15, 2002. DanieICrusoe appeared and supported by his attorney andysofun. Plea of NOT GUILTY entered as to Count 1 (Count 2 on the original complaint).

Date: March 16, 2002
(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-16 09:05 a.m.
PAPERLESS ORDER:

The State has successfully disclosed its evidence. The defendant is entitled to this and is made available on the Trello card. The defendant intends to disclose their evidence. Pre-trial extension is available in accordance with the RJA.

Albert Wellesley
Chief Judge

Date: March 16, 2002.
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-17 02:43 p.m.
@andysofun Discovery has ended
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-17 02:43 p.m.
As of 15 hours ago
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-17 02:44 p.m.
Along with the PT deadline
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-17 02:48 p.m.
No one has moved to extend it
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-17 02:50 p.m.
Please take note of this
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-17 02:51 p.m.
Cc @dero
KezzeraKezzera
No one has moved to extend it
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-17 02:56 p.m.
I move to extend the deadline as I had asked the prosecutor to turn over the tip the alleged victim submitted to the DOJ but the prosecutor hasn’t yet
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-17 02:57 p.m.
andysofunandysofun
I move to extend the deadline as I had asked the prosecutor to turn over the tip the alleged victim submitted to the DOJ but the prosecutor hasn’t yet
dero
dero 2025-03-17 03:12 p.m.
Yeah I meant to say I couldnt find it i just forgot
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-17 03:15 p.m.
In accordance with the rules, pretrial is extended until Friday this week.
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-17 04:57 p.m.
submitted @dero @Kezzera
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-17 05:50 p.m.
Did you use awesome-filing-center
dero
dero 2025-03-17 06:04 p.m.
I mean I have to ask how this is "exculpatory" I think the court should ask the defense to explain how they know the tip would provide something exculpatory @Kezzera
KezzeraKezzera
Did you use awesome-filing-center
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-17 07:42 p.m.
Yes
✅1
derodero
I mean I have to ask how this is "exculpatory" I think the court should ask the defense to explain how they know the tip would provide something exculpatory @Kezzera
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-17 07:48 p.m.
You know we do hearings for these things
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-17 07:50 p.m.
I will require a hearing for it
KezzeraKezzera
I will require a hearing for it
dero
dero 2025-03-17 09:16 p.m.
Okay. I can attend a hearing anytime past 11 PM for this whole week
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-17 09:22 p.m.
I'm busy with school during the week
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-17 09:23 p.m.
on the weekend I'll be on a bus but I can still text on discord
derodero
Okay. I can attend a hearing anytime past 11 PM for this whole week
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-17 10:25 p.m.
which timezone?
KezzeraKezzera
which timezone?
dero
dero 2025-03-17 10:34 p.m.
EST
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-18 12:40 a.m.
I don't even know how we'll work this out
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-18 12:40 a.m.
I can make your times
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-18 12:40 a.m.
But Andy it'll be hard for me to sort my schedule out with you
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-18 12:48 a.m.
actually, hold on
andysofunandysofun
submitted @dero @Kezzera
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-18 12:52 a.m.
@AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-03-18 12:53 a.m.
hello! ill take a glance
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-18 12:59 a.m.
I've read the motion again with more sleep(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-18 12:59 a.m.
I believe a hearing would not be relevant
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-18 01:07 a.m.
MINUTE ENTRY

The pre-trial deadline is extended until Friday, March 21, 2025 at 7:59 p.m.. Consent of party (DEFENDANT).
March 18, 2025
(edited)
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-03-18 01:09 a.m.
MINUTE ORDER

The defendant's Motion to Compel Disclosure is GRANTED. The government is obligated to disclose all exculpatory evidence and those going to the credibility of the witness. Brady v. Maryland, 373 U.S. 83 (1963). The Motion requires evidence that already falls under the obligatory Brady disclosure.

Discovery deadline is Friday, March 21, 2025 at 7:59 p.m..

Albert Wellesley
Chief Judge

AdamJSherman
Magistrate Judge
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-03-18 01:09 a.m.
cc. @dero @andysofun
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-18 10:36 a.m.
thank you your honor
dero
dero 2025-03-19 10:41 a.m.
@andysofun @AdamC_2001 Found out no tip was submitted and that he actually DMed a prosecutor who was not employed with the DOJ for most of this case. https://gyazo.com/503cc033e8bbdc36f23dcf0b98f9ad0e
dero
dero 2025-03-19 10:41 a.m.
Got a gif of the messages from him
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-19 11:19 a.m.
Ok this changes a lot of stuff
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-19 11:19 a.m.
I’ll have another discovery request shortly
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-19 04:15 p.m.
The defense requests from the prosecution: (1) an original copy of the immunity agreement between MK30931 and the state along with the version history of that agreement if it's a google doc, (2)communications between MK30931 and bommes about this case, (3)the messages between M3t5e0 and MK30931 that are shown in the video of communications between MK30931 and MixedReaper (because the screenshots in the gyazo video are too small for me to accurately see so I'd like enlarged versions), and (4)communications between MK30931 and Mayflower Bureau of Investigations Investigators about this case. @dero
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-20 09:17 p.m.
@AdamC_2001 I ask for an extension on the discovery period in order to get the material I just requested above
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-20 09:17 p.m.
cc @dero
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-03-20 09:18 p.m.
sure
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-03-20 09:18 p.m.
Make sure to let the chief judge know.
AdamC_2001AdamC_2001
Make sure to let the chief judge know.
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-20 09:54 p.m.
@Kezzera
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-20 10:02 p.m.
how long do you seek
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-20 10:02 p.m.
@andysofun
KezzeraKezzera
how long do you seek
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-20 10:30 p.m.
I'd say an extension until 3/28 should be adequate
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-20 10:30 p.m.
but it really depends on what the prosecutor gives over
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-20 10:32 p.m.
I can offer only up to 27
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-20 10:33 p.m.
We'll reach the pre-trial maximum
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-20 10:33 p.m.
@andysofun
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-20 10:35 p.m.
Are you happy with up until the 27th then
KezzeraKezzera
Are you happy with up until the 27th then
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-21 11:13 a.m.
Yeah that’s fine
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-21 11:13 a.m.
As long as nothing unexpected pops up
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-21 11:52 a.m.
@AdamC_2001 enter minute order extending pretrial until 27th
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-03-21 06:14 p.m.
MINUTE ORDER

The State in the above criminal matter have asked the court for a discovery extension. This extension is hereby GRANTED. As a reminder the government is obligated to disclose all exculpatory evidence and those going to the credibility of the witness. Brady v. Maryland, 373 U.S. 83 (1963). The Motion requires evidence that already falls under the obligatory Brady disclosure.

Discovery deadline is March 28, 2025 at 7:59 p.m.

/s/ Albert Wellesley
Chief Judge

/s/ AdamJSherman
Magistrate Judge
AdamC_2001
AdamC_2001 2025-03-21 06:14 p.m.
cc @dero @andysofun
andysofunandysofun
The defense requests from the prosecution: (1) an original copy of the immunity agreement between MK30931 and the state along with the version history of that agreement if it's...
dero
dero 2025-03-21 06:43 p.m.
We're not required to provide messages between the victim and some non-party. I will work on getting the messages between MBI and the victim and the immunity deal.
dero
dero 2025-03-21 06:43 p.m.
I really should not have to work this hard to get any of this but the government really messed this case up. We apologize in advance.
✅1
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-21 07:39 p.m.
@dero to clarify could we get bigger versions of the screenshots shown here
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-21 07:39 p.m.
that the government is in possession of
andysofunandysofun
@dero to clarify could we get bigger versions of the screenshots shown here
dero
dero 2025-03-21 07:40 p.m.
Who even is that
derodero
@andysofun @AdamC_2001 Found out no tip was submitted and that he actually DMed a prosecutor who was not employed with the DOJ for most of this case. https://g...
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-21 07:40 p.m.
from this
dero
dero 2025-03-21 07:40 p.m.
No, i'm saying why is that relevant
dero
dero 2025-03-21 07:40 p.m.
its a non-party and the witness having a conversation
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-21 07:40 p.m.
"They are bribing you to testify when this whole case is about bribing" "Yep"
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-21 07:40 p.m.
goes to credibility
dero
dero 2025-03-21 07:40 p.m.
yes but he got a deal which we're getting
dero
dero 2025-03-21 07:41 p.m.
u already know about the bribery thing
derodero
yes but he got a deal which we're getting
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-21 07:41 p.m.
If you don't want to hand it over then I'd be fine with litigating it through a motion to compel
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-21 07:42 p.m.
I just think that it impacts the witnesses credibility when he's saying yes to whether he's being "bribed" to testify
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-21 07:42 p.m.
And I'm sure a jury would like to see that
andysofunandysofun
If you don't want to hand it over then I'd be fine with litigating it through a motion to compel
dero
dero 2025-03-21 07:44 p.m.
Yes please
dero
dero 2025-03-21 07:44 p.m.
not against the immunity deal and the messages between MBI. but I am against the non-party messages
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-21 07:45 p.m.
Alright sounds good
dero
dero 2025-03-21 07:48 p.m.
@andysofun Agreement is in docx format. Do u mind if I just ctrl P it
dero
dero 2025-03-21 07:49 p.m.
and send it here
derodero
@andysofun Agreement is in docx format. Do u mind if I just ctrl P it
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-21 07:49 p.m.
Yeah that's good
dero
dero 2025-03-21 07:51 p.m.
dero
dero 2025-03-21 07:51 p.m.
@andysofun @AdamC_2001 Witness immunity deal ^
dero
dero 2025-03-21 08:33 p.m.
dero
dero 2025-03-21 08:33 p.m.
@andysofun
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-21 08:42 p.m.
ty
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-23 03:25 a.m.
Are we satisfied with discovery?
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-23 11:09 a.m.
submitted @Kezzera @dero
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-23 11:09 a.m.
and filed in <#1349633434955550771>
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-23 11:41 a.m.
also submitted and filed in <#1349633434955550771>
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-03-23 04:31 p.m.
:🐌:
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-03-24 03:17 p.m.
welcome to snail court.
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-24 05:58 p.m.
@andysofun @dero Jury Trial Demand ruling submitted
KezzeraKezzera
@andysofun @dero Jury Trial Demand ruling submitted
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-24 06:01 p.m.
where can I find it your honor
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-24 06:01 p.m.
please ALWAYS check trello
KezzeraKezzera
please ALWAYS check trello
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-24 06:03 p.m.
Your honor this might be wrong
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-24 06:03 p.m.
it is indeed
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-24 06:04 p.m.
@andysofun few minutes and it will appear corrected
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-24 06:04 p.m.
thank you your honor
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-24 07:28 p.m.
@Kezzera @dero
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-03-24 08:05 p.m.
snail court
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-25 07:28 a.m.
i'll ask you to stop with the snail stuff thanks
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-03-25 10:33 a.m.
aw :(
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-25 12:23 p.m.
:3
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-25 04:48 p.m.
@dero You are reminded of two outstanding motions, both of which are of substantial interest for the government to review(edited)
KezzeraKezzera
@dero You are reminded of two outstanding motions, both of which are of substantial interest for the government to review(edited)
dero
dero 2025-03-25 06:01 p.m.
Yes I am having someone appear soon to do those for me i dont have time for the paper pushing schemes
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-25 10:54 p.m.
I'm afraid that part of the job is prompt response to these, or acknowledgment
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-25 10:55 p.m.
You have a time limit
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-26 09:09 a.m.
RECORD Reflect: Magistrate @AdamC_2001 in light of circumstances surrounding his employment is hereby terminated from pre-trial proceedings.
March 26, 2025
Kezzera pinned a message to this channel.2025-06-21 08:49 p.m.
KezzeraKezzera
You have a time limit
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-26 01:24 p.m.
I ask the court to grant the motions as the government hasn't contested them
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-26 01:39 p.m.
oh i thought i sent the message
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-26 01:40 p.m.
Deadline has passed. Motions will be considered
March 26, 2025
KezzeraKezzera
Deadline has passed. Motions will be considered March 26, 2025
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-27 04:14 p.m.
we ask to be allowed to submit our opposition to the motion in limine
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-27 04:15 p.m.
I wasnt added to this channel until well after I was asleep last night
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-27 04:16 p.m.
Andy submitted 2 motions to compel, 1 motion in limine, and initiated an appeal which needs a motion to dismiss from us
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-27 04:16 p.m.
im here because dero was too busy to answer all the motions
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-27 04:17 p.m.
we aren’t opposing either motion to compel but I believe that our opposition to the motion in limine would be well taken for precedential reasons
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-27 04:17 p.m.
i can have it by tonight
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-27 05:19 p.m.
The DOJ has already gotten an extension earlier and now they want a second
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-27 05:19 p.m.
at this point why even have deadlines
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-27 07:43 p.m.
and you also got extensions for discovery
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-27 07:43 p.m.
please do not try to belittle us after submitting several pleadings which all need responses
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-27 07:55 p.m.
I've recieved extensions for discovery not because of my own fault but because the government has failed to turn over Brady material
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-27 07:56 p.m.
For example I didn't even know that the witness signed an immunity agreement until I moved to compel messages between the government and the alleged victim
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-27 08:00 p.m.
And your honor I don't see how I'm "belittling" opposing counsel, the government has consistently failed to meet deadlines and now the prosecutor is "too busy," the government has plenty of attorneys and resources at their disposal @Kezzera
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:15 p.m.
I see no reason to grant any extension nor bend the rules because the government was too busy to respond
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:16 p.m.
The bending of rules is exceptional and should be done with good legal reason
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:16 p.m.
Without that it's very hard to justify
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:17 p.m.
Save for the exception that the rule itself may not be fair (not what's being argued)
NicklausNicklaus
Andy submitted 2 motions to compel, 1 motion in limine, and initiated an appeal which needs a motion to dismiss from us
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:17 p.m.
They're not seeking leave of this court
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:17 p.m.
for appeal
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-27 08:17 p.m.
it doesn’t matter
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-27 08:18 p.m.
it still adds onto our workload to handle his appeal
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:18 p.m.
Yes, that seems to be the case
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:18 p.m.
I have been extremely considerate up until a certain point
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:19 p.m.
Now I have to be firm in these decisions on deadlines
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:19 p.m.
Or I will risk losing control of proceedings
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:19 p.m.
If someone had a legitimate emergency like bereavement
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:19 p.m.
and it was an immediate one
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:20 p.m.
That's an exception
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-27 08:20 p.m.
i understand but im asking for like 2 hours to oppose a single motion. you aren’t ruling in 2 hours
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:20 p.m.
The government lapsed 1 day from the deadline
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:21 p.m.
If I received any notice from the DAG about his schedule in advance
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:21 p.m.
and he would have kindly asked
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:21 p.m.
We would've worked something out
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:21 p.m.
I received nothing but silence after some time
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-27 08:21 p.m.
you didn’t add me to this channel until 3am
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-27 08:21 p.m.
Dero has been busy
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-27 08:21 p.m.
As have I
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:21 p.m.
I'm on about DAG and I understand
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:22 p.m.
But he still had a duty to respond to this
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:22 p.m.
I've taken his no response as waiver of an argument
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:22 p.m.
Which may support your earlier statement about the compel, but not to the limine
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:22 p.m.
Why should I now bend the rules? Give me any good reason
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:23 p.m.
I legitimately would've been happy to offer more time if it was needed
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:23 p.m.
not 500 years, but an hour or two
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:24 p.m.
I've done it once here and that was purely because defense counsel agreed
KezzeraKezzera
not 500 years, but an hour or two
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:24 p.m.
I can't do this again. We have to start being strict
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:25 p.m.
Unless I'm convinced otherwise
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:26 p.m.
NicklausNicklaus
we aren’t opposing either motion to compel but I believe that our opposition to the motion in limine would be well taken for precedential reasons
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-27 08:27 p.m.
@Kezzera Your honor may the government be ordered to disclose the material requested in the motion to compel as they don't oppose
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:29 p.m.
They can just submit notice to not oppose and submit the material it anyway - the record will reflect that(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:30 p.m.
And yes if the government needs time to gather the material that's available, up to the date in which we must decide going to trial (or whatever the process will be dependent on the situation)(edited)
KezzeraKezzera
Why should I now bend the rules? Give me any good reason
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-27 08:31 p.m.
i am here to write the opposition since 2 motions to compel, 1 motion to limine, and an appeal was initiated while dero was busy. I understand it may be deros fault for not asking for an extension earlier, maybe he thought i would handle it, but then again, I wasn’t added here until well after I was asleep. But because I believe that there is precedential value to add, we openly leave the motions to compel as uncontested and simply seek to file our opposition on the motion in limine. I am simply asking for 1 or 2 hours to finish that opposition, which prejudices no party nor this court
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:31 p.m.
When did he ask you
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:31 p.m.
to help
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:31 p.m.
I need a date
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:33 p.m.
The first motion to compel resulted in the material being disclosed
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:33 p.m.
The magistrate entered an order reflecting this
KezzeraKezzera
I need a date
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-27 08:33 p.m.
end of day on the 25th
KezzeraKezzera
The first motion to compel resulted in the material being disclosed
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-27 08:33 p.m.
yes I understand that much
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:33 p.m.
He asked you 2-3 days ago?
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:33 p.m.
You asked me to get added yesterday?
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:34 p.m.
Or did I simply miss when you asked
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-27 08:34 p.m.
I asked to get added to this channel 24 hrs after he asked me for help
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-27 08:34 p.m.
I had already started drafting the opposition by then
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-27 08:34 p.m.
I must say that it's quite unusual that the solicitor general is handling pre-trial stuff in a case
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-27 08:35 p.m.
Usually the solicitor general only handles appellate stuff and civil cases
UserUser
Message could not be loaded.
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:35 p.m.
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:35 p.m.
This was requested on the 27th
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:35 p.m.
At my time
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:35 p.m.
GMT
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:35 p.m.
What time was this for you
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-27 08:36 p.m.
8 pm on the 26th
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:37 p.m.
He asked you on the day it was due?
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:37 p.m.
The 25th
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:37 p.m.
My time
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-27 08:37 p.m.
he asked me the 25th for me
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-27 08:37 p.m.
idk which day it was due frankly
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:37 p.m.
These were submitted on the 23rd my time, then up to 25th for me GMT
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:37 p.m.
These must be submitted within 48 hours
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:38 p.m.
I will double check for you
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-27 08:38 p.m.
the court has long made exceptions to the 48 hr deadline
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-27 08:38 p.m.
but I don’t know when the responses were due
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:39 p.m.
These were submitted on May 23 MTC2 3:09 and MIL :45pm respectively in the GMT timezone(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:39 p.m.
Normally it's due by May 25 of these times
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-27 08:39 p.m.
ok then yes I believe he asked me on the due date
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:40 p.m.
I corrected my times
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:40 p.m.
right
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:40 p.m.
I don't get why I have to make this exception
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:41 p.m.
Wouldn't it have been preferable to ask for your assistance at least a day earlier?
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-27 08:41 p.m.
it would’ve always been preferable to ask for my assistance earlier
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-27 08:41 p.m.
but that’s not what happened
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-27 08:41 p.m.
idk his workload
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-27 08:42 p.m.
this has been abandoned by Singhski and then act
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:42 p.m.
I will say that this whole thing has turned out to be a complete clusterfuck
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:43 p.m.
I don't know what to say then because it is not for me to accommodate parties outright - there has to be reasons supporting these kinds of extensions
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:43 p.m.
If I had advance notice of, say, busy workload and that it may be harder to submit things in two days
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:44 p.m.
then I would have made a schedule of deadlines that would work
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:44 p.m.
I got nothing, and I was under assumption thus that everyone was happy with two days to respond
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:44 p.m.
I can't just be told all of this now and expect to make time, let alone 1 hour
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:45 p.m.
I can't, I'm sorry
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-27 08:45 p.m.
ok
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-27 08:45 p.m.
i understand
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:46 p.m.
I understand your frustrations truly
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:46 p.m.
and that you're undergoing a lot of reforms there
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:46 p.m.
but we cannot just sporadically make changes now
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:46 p.m.
It would be inherently unfair if I offered this to you, then not offered to the defendant the same opportunity
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:47 p.m.
which may or may not be opposed
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:47 p.m.
(It almost never is)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:48 p.m.
Its still available, with either parties, to justify any extensions this very late with really solid legal reasoning
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:48 p.m.
or whatever reason that forces the court to grant it
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:48 p.m.
or with the acceptance of opposing counsel (and these submissions are noted late, which is never preferable)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:50 p.m.
Or if there's some emergency that arose and it was not possible to submit on time, and I remind that no proof is required for that - we all have lives and it's lego, I get it
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:51 p.m.
(not to say that you should abuse that whatsoever - it would be ruined for everyone if it was)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:54 p.m.
I think I've made this clear
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:55 p.m.
@Nicklaus You are reminded of the deadline for discovery, please make sure to submit by then - if it needs to be extended, this has to be formally done; if you intend to go ahead with not wanting to opposite the compel, file notice to not challenge/oppose then attach a discovery document containing material requested
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:56 p.m.
The materials in question are the thread of screenshots between M3t5e0 and MK30931(edited)
KezzeraKezzera
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:56 p.m.
Discovery deadline
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-27 08:57 p.m.
@dero
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-27 08:57 p.m.
The defense intends to submit our discovery once we have all the material from the government
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-27 08:57 p.m.
so we can include the messages in our discovery
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:57 p.m.
If you intend to not proceed with the not challenge, I will proceed with my ruling on the compel motion along with limine
andysofunandysofun
so we can include the messages in our discovery
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:57 p.m.
Please be conscious of the deadline above
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-27 08:57 p.m.
We must proceed and move forward very soon
KezzeraKezzera
Discovery deadline
dero
dero 2025-03-27 09:24 p.m.
The government has already submitted discovery, your honor.
derodero
The government has already submitted discovery, your honor.
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-27 09:26 p.m.
The government hasn't submitted the material requested in the second motion to compel
andysofunandysofun
The government hasn't submitted the material requested in the second motion to compel
dero
dero 2025-03-27 10:14 p.m.
Well I dont think it was granted yet
derodero
The government has already submitted discovery, your honor.
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-28 05:14 a.m.
There's a second motion
derodero
Well I dont think it was granted yet
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-28 05:15 a.m.
Apparently nick intends to turn over material requested in the second
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-28 05:15 a.m.
He said this yesterday
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-28 05:15 a.m.
Are you aware
KezzeraKezzera
Apparently nick intends to turn over material requested in the second
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-28 04:33 p.m.
the material requested is already in discovery by virtue of the… exhibit he referenced in the motion
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-28 04:35 p.m.
Your honor I cannot accurately see the messages in the exhibit referenced in the motions
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-28 04:35 p.m.
Some of the messages are cut out so the full conversations aren’t there
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-28 05:05 p.m.
I beliee the material in question are the actual screenshots
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-28 05:05 p.m.
believe*
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-28 05:06 p.m.
Are you now intending to go back on your word that (if i understand correctly) you would provide counsel with the screenshots @Nicklaus
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-28 05:07 p.m.
?
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-28 07:39 p.m.
im not going back on anything
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-28 07:40 p.m.
u still have to write an order on the motions
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-28 10:33 p.m.
submitted @Kezzera @Nicklaus @dero
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-28 10:33 p.m.
and filed in <#1349633434955550771>
andysofunandysofun
submitted @Kezzera @Nicklaus @dero
dero
dero 2025-03-28 10:47 p.m.
Motion for sanctions as if there has been an order to actually compel us to do anything
dero
dero 2025-03-28 10:47 p.m.
??
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-28 11:13 p.m.
we didnt refuse to do anything anyways
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-28 11:13 p.m.
u have the images
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-28 11:16 p.m.
now pls stop pinging me for stuff in this case
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-28 11:16 p.m.
i was here to submit the opposition that we weren't allowed to submit
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-29 04:22 a.m.
I said you can do it without me having to make that order. I even told you in what manner
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-29 04:23 a.m.
I said this in light of the comment you made that you'd be willing to hand over the requested material
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-29 04:24 a.m.
Please read the messages from earlier
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-29 12:57 p.m.
@andysofun @dero Order has been entered for the outstanding motions. NOTE: Limine NOT ruled on pending official communication from the Supreme Court (argument reliant mostly on jury issue)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-29 12:58 p.m.
In summary:
Motion to Compel Disclosure (2) GRANTED. See Order for reasons.
Motion in Limine not ruled on for reasons of PENDING APPEAL ACTION
Motion for Sanctions DENIED - lacking official order to issue sanction against
(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-29 01:00 p.m.
Pre-trial schedule amended for error in communication with Government. Discovery extended until (including) March 30, 2025.
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-29 01:00 p.m.
The deadline is also set to give Defendant sufficient time to engage and disclose in Discovery
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-29 01:01 p.m.
@dero The Government must disclose the screenshots in the Gyazo GIF by March 30, 2025 at 11:59PM PST set out in my Order. The Gyazo GIF itself must now be submitted formally (put it on paper) for disclosure - marked and indexed.(edited)
derodero
@andysofun @AdamC_2001 Found out no tip was submitted and that he actually DMed a prosecutor who was not employed with the DOJ for most of this case. https://g...
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-29 01:01 p.m.
For reference, this @dero
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-29 09:21 p.m.
@Crusoe I have been made aware of your presence on the Sheriff Office's team
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-29 09:25 p.m.
You are reminded that you have a pending criminal case, and you cannot operate as a peace officer during it (4 MSC 5 s. 1601(c)).
KezzeraKezzera
You are reminded that you have a pending criminal case, and you cannot operate as a peace officer during it (4 MSC 5 s. 1601(c)).
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-03-29 09:30 p.m.
I was not aware of this.
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-29 09:31 p.m.
yeah it's a disqualifier
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-03-29 09:31 p.m.
Guilty until proven innocent.
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-03-29 09:32 p.m.
Seems unconstitutional.
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-29 09:37 p.m.
I wouldn't see 1601(c) in that way
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-03-29 11:31 p.m.
I'll comply with that, just informed my department.
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-30 08:00 a.m.
Thank you sir
dero
dero 2025-03-30 12:05 p.m.
@Kezzera @andysofun
dero
dero 2025-03-30 12:05 p.m.
Amended to include what has been required including the identity we have located of the guy involved in the disclosed images
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-30 12:27 p.m.
@andysofun State has complied with their obligations, and additionally names M3t5e0 as a defendant witness(edited)
KezzeraKezzera
@andysofun State has complied with their obligations, and additionally names M3t5e0 as a defendant witness(edited)
dero
dero 2025-03-30 12:29 p.m.
Just to clarify we do not name m3t5e0 as a defendant
dero
dero 2025-03-30 12:29 p.m.
We just wanted to disclose his identity to the defense
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-30 12:30 p.m.
oh
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-30 12:30 p.m.
i meant to say witness
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-30 12:30 p.m.
@dero
dero
dero 2025-03-30 12:32 p.m.
:👍:
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-30 12:38 p.m.
he is a witness, yes?
KezzeraKezzera
he is a witness, yes?
dero
dero 2025-03-30 12:47 p.m.
Yes, Your Honor
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dero
dero 2025-03-30 12:48 p.m.
We do not necessarily intend to call him but we are disclosing that he did witness it.
KezzeraKezzera
@andysofun State has complied with their obligations, and additionally names M3t5e0 as a defendant witness(edited)
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-30 01:09 p.m.
I’ll submit defense discovery when I get home
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-30 01:22 p.m.
Thank you gentlemen
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-30 01:23 p.m.
We'll look to hold a preliminary hearing very soon, subject to action from above
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-30 01:29 p.m.
(yes, it's very much warranted)
andysofunandysofun
I’ll submit defense discovery when I get home
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-30 10:09 p.m.
Will be submitted tomorrow
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-30 10:09 p.m.
got home very late and I'm way too tired
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-30 11:02 p.m.
...
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-30 11:02 p.m.
It's literally due today
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-30 11:02 p.m.
I've required it by today
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-30 11:03 p.m.
I'm not changing the deadline anymore
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-30 11:03 p.m.
@andysofun
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-30 11:05 p.m.
You have exactly 3 hours and 55 minutes from now to submit it
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-30 11:06 p.m.
Less sleep for me then I guess
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-30 11:06 p.m.
Sorry
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-30 11:07 p.m.
I thought you had a preliminary collection of material to work with
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-30 11:07 p.m.
and I hope you do, it would not take much time to compile and submit
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-30 11:35 p.m.
@Kezzera @dero
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-30 11:35 p.m.
lost 45 minutes of sleep to submit but I'm very committed to my clients
andysofunandysofun
@Kezzera @dero
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-30 11:36 p.m.
and filed in <#1349633434955550771>
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-30 11:44 p.m.
Thank you
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-30 11:44 p.m.
Sleep well
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-30 11:44 p.m.
@andysofun Entered
andysofun
andysofun 2025-03-30 11:44 p.m.
ty
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-31 01:11 a.m.
Exhibits C to G in Defendant's Discovery and Exhibits K to O of Government's Amended Discovery are the same. Counsellors should refer to Exhibits K to O of Government's Amended Discovery when making reference to the Imgur images
KezzeraKezzera
Exhibits C to G in Defendant's Discovery and Exhibits K to O of Government's Amended Discovery are the same. Counsellors should refer to Exhibits K to O of Government's Amended Dis...
dero
dero 2025-03-31 01:18 a.m.
Yes, your honor.
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-03-31 02:28 p.m.
can we get a date and time for this preliminary hearing
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-31 04:09 p.m.
@Crusoe It will be difficult to proceed in light of the remaining outstanding motion (the motion in limine) and the jury trial issue which your attorney has litigated to the appellate court
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-31 04:09 p.m.
We're best waiting until further updates
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-31 04:10 p.m.
Until then I will correct any procedural issues that may arise
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-31 04:10 p.m.
I am aware that we are far beyond the normal timescale and would like to press on with this in respect of your speedy trial rights(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-31 04:12 p.m.
@dero I need an update, if you can, on the JT appeal
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-31 04:12 p.m.
I assume you are aware
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-31 04:18 p.m.
@dero @andysofun @Crusoe In the interest of time and for the sake of preserving the Defendant's speedy rights, we'll proceed to the preliminary hearing
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-31 04:21 p.m.
I will provide a scheduling link. I want you all to make yourselves available on the selected date. I will not permit asynchronous hearings. The venue can either be remotely done here or in-game. I will no longer allow last-minute notices from counsel as to their unavailability unless there is a genuine emergency such as hospitalization, bereavment or some other personal emergency. I am still open to such notice if you do not appear - will give you all a day for the benefit of the doubt.
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-31 04:22 p.m.
I will require that the witnesses listed appear at this hearing also for a specific issue: the "bribery" comments made by MK30931 and M3t5e0.(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-31 04:23 p.m.
@dero Would you or any of your colleagues be happy to notify them of this Court's intention to invite them to this hearing
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-31 04:23 p.m.
I am happy to extend the link to them as well which you can provide
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-31 04:27 p.m.
Given you intend to actually call any of them - I think it's warranted for the specific issue at minimum - if you do not then certain portions of my earlier messages should be disregarded(edited)
KezzeraKezzera
@dero I need an update, if you can, on the JT appeal
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-31 04:29 p.m.
submitting mtd to it tonight
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-31 04:30 p.m.
hopefully
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-31 04:30 p.m.
i believe they are waiting on that to vote
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-31 04:30 p.m.
Thank you @Nicklaus your work is appreciated
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-31 04:30 p.m.
Yes I believe so too
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-31 04:30 p.m.
I only saw the appeal notice last time I checked the CITE portal
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-31 04:30 p.m.
No further updates
NicklausNicklaus
i believe they are waiting on that to vote
dero
dero 2025-03-31 04:32 p.m.
Thank you solicitor general
KezzeraKezzera
@dero Would you or any of your colleagues be happy to notify them of this Court's intention to invite them to this hearing
dero
dero 2025-03-31 04:33 p.m.
As in would any justice department employees like to come?
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-31 04:34 p.m.
No, I meant to say that if any of your DOJ colleagues would be fine sending the scheduling link to your two witnesses on your behalf if you are too busy with something - if you intend to call them(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-31 04:34 p.m.
If you need someone to appear on your behalf because you cannot make it, please make sure that they file the notices in advance so I'm aware(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-31 04:38 p.m.
The legal framework and standard I will be using is in the Rules of Evidence which I will provide for everyone's benefit: https://hackmd.io/@clarkcounty/BytEWNe2C/%2Fb5X2a4b4Rd6P6U5jeVV2kA
derodero
As in would any justice department employees like to come?
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-03-31 04:39 p.m.
@dero above
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-02 12:03 p.m.
@dero Please provide availability within the link provided
dero
dero 2025-04-02 04:30 p.m.
@Kezzera Done
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Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-04-03 12:56 a.m.
So the hearing will be on April 5th?
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-03 02:04 a.m.
A preliminary hearing is scheduled for Sunday, April 6, 2025 at 2:00 p.m. . @dero @andysofun @Crusoe
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-04-03 11:35 a.m.
Thank you your honor
KezzeraKezzera
A preliminary hearing is scheduled for Sunday, April 6, 2025 at 2:00 p.m. . @dero @andysofun @Crusoe
dero
dero 2025-04-03 07:47 p.m.
Err I didnt say I was available for this time
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-03 07:52 p.m.
It should be set to your local time
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-03 07:53 p.m.
It said you're available at 7PM my time
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-03 07:53 p.m.
@dero can you set your timezone to your local time in the booking link
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-03 07:54 p.m.
If it doesn't correspond let me know your timezone so I can clarify
dero
dero 2025-04-03 07:58 p.m.
dero
dero 2025-04-03 07:58 p.m.
@Kezzera
dero
dero 2025-04-03 07:58 p.m.
Im est and its saying this
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-03 08:00 p.m.
oh that's the wrong date
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-03 08:00 p.m.
it should be april 5th for you
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-03 08:02 p.m.
@Crusoe @andysofun @dero Disregard the message with the Discord Timestamp. Clarifying that the hearing is scheduled for: April 5, 2025 at 11:00AM Pacific Time
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-03 08:02 p.m.
You should convert to your local timezone - it should correspond with available times(edited)
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-04-03 08:06 p.m.
2PM EST
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Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-04-03 08:06 p.m.
Understood
KezzeraKezzera
it should be april 5th for you
dero
dero 2025-04-03 08:13 p.m.
Alright that works fo rme
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Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-03 08:47 p.m.
Grand thanks everyone
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-03 09:17 p.m.
The Court will now be issuing the subpoenas
Brenda
Brenda 2025-04-03 09:18 p.m.
The Prothonotary's Office hereby enters subponeae ad testificandum for M3T5e0 and MK30931.
cc: @Kezzera @MK30931 @M3t5e0 @dero @Crusoe
(edited)
Brenda
Brenda 2025-04-03 09:18 p.m.
@Prothonotary of Court
@Prothonotary's Office
@Underprothonotary
BrendaBrenda used
/summon
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-04-03 09:18 p.m.
:white_check_mark: Successfully summoned @MK30931(edited)
BrendaBrenda used
/summon
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-04-03 09:19 p.m.
:white_check_mark: Successfully summoned @M3t5e0(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-04 11:38 a.m.
@M3t5e0 For the record witness M3t5e0 has responded and is in this channel(edited)
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-04-05 01:49 p.m.
@Kezzera I assume we're starting soon?
andysofun
andysofun 2025-04-05 02:06 p.m.
@Kezzera
andysofun
andysofun 2025-04-05 02:06 p.m.
@Kezzera
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-04-05 02:10 p.m.
@Kezzera
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-05 02:18 p.m.
oh hell
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-05 02:19 p.m.
it's marked as april 6th for me
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-05 02:19 p.m.
i must've got the time wrong on my end
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-05 02:19 p.m.
it's fine, we'll still go ahead
andysofun
andysofun 2025-04-05 02:19 p.m.
@Crusoe I believe I and my client can still do it
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-05 02:20 p.m.
@dero are you aware of Mk30931 being present(edited)
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-04-05 02:20 p.m.
ok awesome
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-04-05 02:20 p.m.
Smallest server?
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-05 02:20 p.m.
believe so but we're missing some people it seems
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-05 02:20 p.m.
i think we went over time so if we need to wait another half hour or something that's fine
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-05 02:21 p.m.
or we can do it remotely here - i'll ask everyone to be on and available in that case
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-05 02:21 p.m.
@Crusoe @andysofun @dero @M3t5e0
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-05 02:22 p.m.
okay, the other witness is here to
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-05 02:22 p.m.
@MK30931 you can talk now
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-05 02:23 p.m.
sorry for the late add - i'll take it as you responding to the subpoena successfully
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-05 02:25 p.m.
@MK30931 @dero @andysofun @Crusoe @M3t5e0 i will be joining the smallest server in-game in the second courtroom at the lander city dc courthouse, follow me through my profile: https://www.roblox.com/users/35196321/profile

if i don't see everyone present in 35 minutes, i will hold it here remotely - we will start when everyone is present or after 35 minutes dependent on the situation
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-05 02:31 p.m.
please refer to the following to locate the court:
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-05 02:32 p.m.
@Brenda
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-05 02:32 p.m.
go to this courtroom
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-05 02:32 p.m.
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-04-05 02:34 p.m.
oh I went to the SC
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-05 02:35 p.m.
oh yeah sorry its actually at dc
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-05 02:35 p.m.
we have our own courthouse
dero
dero 2025-04-05 02:36 p.m.
um this is my bad
dero
dero 2025-04-05 02:36 p.m.
am i deathly late?
dero
dero 2025-04-05 02:36 p.m.
ive had a roaring headache and i forgot
derodero
am i deathly late?
andysofun
andysofun 2025-04-05 02:37 p.m.
ur fine
andysofunandysofun
ur fine
dero
dero 2025-04-05 02:37 p.m.
ill drive over there rn
derodero
am i deathly late?
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-05 02:40 p.m.
no not at all
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-05 02:40 p.m.
you're fine
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-05 02:40 p.m.
we'll wait on your witnesses too
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-05 02:46 p.m.
Hearing due to begin
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-05 02:53 p.m.
Hearing started appx 7:47pm gmt (to be confirmed later on the record)(edited)
dero
dero 2025-04-05 03:03 p.m.
How would you like me to explain how State's Exhibits J-O do not harm probable cause if I cannot refer to them?
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Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-05 03:04 p.m.
For the record Derog is posting Exhibit J
dero
dero 2025-04-05 03:04 p.m.
andysofun
andysofun 2025-04-05 03:10 p.m.
Your honor, the evidence hasn't had a foundation laid to establish authenticity
andysofun
andysofun 2025-04-05 03:10 p.m.
Which is required under the mayflower rules of evidence for a piece of evidence to be used in court
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-05 03:16 p.m.
For the record: Exhibit J is no longer considered - Objection on Rule 11 Evidence rules (authenticity) - Defense is OK with K through O(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-05 03:16 p.m.
State proceeds to discuss K through O
dero
dero 2025-04-05 03:18 p.m.
Mister m3t accuses the victim of being "on mnp" and "ex mrf".
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dero
dero 2025-04-05 03:20 p.m.
Please dont.
dero
dero 2025-04-05 03:20 p.m.
Mk
andysofun
andysofun 2025-04-05 03:20 p.m.
LOL
MK30931
MK30931 2025-04-05 03:20 p.m.
:💀:
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-04-05 03:20 p.m.
speak ur mind
derodero
Mister m3t accuses the victim of being "on mnp" and "ex mrf".
MK30931
MK30931 2025-04-05 03:20 p.m.
Ts is irrelevant btw
dero
dero 2025-04-05 03:50 p.m.
Exhibit D
dero
dero 2025-04-05 03:57 p.m.
Exhibit E
dero
dero 2025-04-05 04:01 p.m.
Exhibit I
andysofun
andysofun 2025-04-05 04:26 p.m.
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andysofun
andysofun 2025-04-05 04:26 p.m.
screenshots from my client @Kezzera
andysofun
andysofun 2025-04-05 04:26 p.m.
@dero
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-05 04:53 p.m.
Hearing concluded
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-05 04:54 p.m.
Written order to be made:
- PC found and remains
- Exhibit J no consider on rule 11 RE
- Fixing of trial date
- Confirming the calling and availability of witnesses
- Confirming the availability of parties
Brenda
Brenda 2025-04-06 07:58 a.m.
Certificate of recording has been e-filed and will be reflected on the Trello card.
cc: @Kezzera @andysofun @dero
BrendaBrenda
Certificate of recording has been e-filed and will be reflected on the Trello card. cc: @Kezzera @andysofun @dero
Brenda
Brenda 2025-04-06 07:59 a.m.
@Prothonotary's Office
@Prothonotary of Court
@Underprothonotary
andysofun
andysofun 2025-04-08 09:54 p.m.
submitted @dero @Kezzera
dero
dero 2025-04-08 10:07 p.m.
^
dero
dero 2025-04-08 10:07 p.m.
:✅:
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-08 10:14 p.m.
The language is seriously deficient - it lacks so much, such as waivers, and the prosecution's options if the terms were breached, etc. and it would be impossible for me to even allow this to be filed and have any effect(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-08 10:14 p.m.
Would it be possible for both of you to come up with a complete agreement
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-08 10:15 p.m.
I believe the government would have a template for DPAs around
KezzeraKezzera
Would it be possible for both of you to come up with a complete agreement
dero
dero 2025-04-08 10:20 p.m.
Yes, Your Honor. We were just eager to get this resolved considering we are so far into this case
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-08 10:32 p.m.
I was going to get to scheduling a trial date
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-08 10:33 p.m.
I'll just note the intention - send me a complete, properly written agreement
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-08 10:37 p.m.
In the meantime I won't proceed with scheduling trial
andysofun
andysofun 2025-04-14 06:31 p.m.
@Kezzera submitted
andysofun
andysofun 2025-04-14 06:31 p.m.
cc: @dero
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-04-16 06:55 p.m.
@Kezzera
andysofunandysofun
@Kezzera submitted
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-18 02:07 a.m.
waives his right to a trial?
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-18 02:07 a.m.
do you mean speedy trial?
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-04-18 09:11 a.m.
be so fr right now
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-04-18 09:12 a.m.
@andysofun
KezzeraKezzera
waives his right to a trial?
andysofun
andysofun 2025-04-18 09:55 a.m.
by waiving his right to a trial he also inherently waives his right to a speedy trial
andysofun
andysofun 2025-04-18 09:55 a.m.
as without the trial there is no speedy trial so he waives speedy trial
andysofun
andysofun 2025-04-18 09:55 a.m.
and by pleading guilty he waives his right to a trial
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-18 11:02 a.m.
wha
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-18 11:04 a.m.
Nowhere in the agreement was it made clear your client is changing his plea
andysofunandysofun
and by pleading guilty he waives his right to a trial
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-04-18 11:05 a.m.
I’m not pleading guilty vro
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-18 11:06 a.m.
I was of the belief this was remaining a not guilty plea
andysofunandysofun
and by pleading guilty he waives his right to a trial
andysofun
andysofun 2025-04-18 11:06 a.m.
disregard that he's not pleading guilty @Kezzera
andysofun
andysofun 2025-04-18 11:06 a.m.
I misspoke
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-18 11:06 a.m.
right
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-18 11:07 a.m.
It's thus unlikely I can agree to a term where he waives his right to trial if he remains with his original ng plea
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-18 11:08 a.m.
It'd be extraordinary where a defendant cannot go to trial if he breaks the conditions of the agreement with the ng plea
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-18 11:08 a.m.
Do you have any authority supporting this??
andysofun
andysofun 2025-04-18 11:08 a.m.
so would the court like us to remove that section
andysofun
andysofun 2025-04-18 11:08 a.m.
the section about waiving trial
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-18 11:09 a.m.
Yes, because it doesn't make sense - I hope the intention was speedy trial not trial entirely
andysofun
andysofun 2025-04-18 11:09 a.m.
Yes your honor
andysofun
andysofun 2025-04-18 11:09 a.m.
I'll get it updated
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-18 11:09 a.m.
Thank you
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-18 11:09 a.m.
I'll enter order by end of day
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-18 11:10 a.m.
And I will reset the deadline for the two week payment
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-18 11:10 a.m.
So he'll have enough time to comply
andysofun
andysofun 2025-04-18 03:36 p.m.
@Kezzera @dero
andysofun
andysofun 2025-04-18 03:36 p.m.
submitted
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-04-19 09:10 p.m.
@Kezzera
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-04-19 10:43 p.m.
can you check over it so I cant get to payimg the man
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-04-19 10:43 p.m.
can*
MK30931
MK30931 2025-04-19 11:39 p.m.
Fr
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-20 05:16 a.m.
@Crusoe @andysofun @dero The DPA is accepted. Scheduling for trial is suspended unless ordered otherwise. Two-week deadline for payment is reset. Defendant must pay by May 4 to comply with the terms of the agreement.
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-20 05:16 a.m.
Order is entered.
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-20 06:57 a.m.
@Crusoe @andysofun
MINUTE ORDER

Defendant shall submit a written declaration demonstrating him satisfying the terms of the DPA and provide proof of receipt in the form of a screen capture showing the transaction, which must include: (1) the name of the recipient; and (2) the UC$ amount transferred to the recipient by Wire Transfer. Additionally, Defendant must declare that he has the ability to pay the demanded amount listed in the DPA. Chief Judge Wellesley 4/20/25.

April 20, 2025
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-04-20 08:02 a.m.
I’m able to pay.
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-04-20 08:02 a.m.
@MK30931 When can you get on today?
CrusoeCrusoe
@MK30931 When can you get on today?
MK30931
MK30931 2025-04-20 08:07 a.m.
Now if u want
MK30931MK30931
Now if u want
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-04-20 08:08 a.m.
15 minutes
MK30931
MK30931 2025-04-20 08:08 a.m.
Ight
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-04-20 08:17 a.m.
@MK30931
MK30931
MK30931 2025-04-20 08:25 a.m.
Alr gimme 5 mins
MK30931
MK30931 2025-04-20 08:33 a.m.
ty pooks:😊:
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-04-20 08:33 a.m.
@Kezzera I have fulfilled the terms of the DPA.
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Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-04-20 08:34 a.m.
The screenshot didn't capture the timestamp or playerlist for some reason so here is a clip.
dero
dero 2025-04-20 11:51 a.m.
outstanding
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-04-21 11:42 a.m.
Am I a free man
Crusoe
Crusoe 2025-04-21 11:42 a.m.
@Kezzera I
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-21 11:15 p.m.
the government will have to file the paperwork for it
dero
dero 2025-04-22 07:22 a.m.
@Kezzera Ill get that in today your honor
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dero
dero 2025-04-22 10:41 p.m.
Awesome filing center seems to be unavailable right now
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dero
dero 2025-04-22 10:41 p.m.
@Kezzera @Crusoe @andysofun
derodero
andysofun
andysofun 2025-04-23 12:06 p.m.
No objection
MK30931
MK30931 2025-04-23 02:00 p.m.
Easy money:🥰:
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-23 04:30 p.m.
Order entered
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-23 04:30 p.m.
The case is dismissed without prejudice. No order made as to costs.
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-04-23 06:42 p.m.
@Underprothonotary
BrendaBrenda used
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